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Opposing Bases: Air Traffic Talk

Welcome to Opposing Bases: Air Traffic Talk.  Our aviation podcast is delivered by two experienced pilots that work as air traffic controllers.  We fly in the NAS and we interact with the community through our podcast.  Our show is driven by your feedback and questions.  Enjoy the show and thanks for listening!

Apr 10, 2023

Episode 275 Show Notes


Topic of the show: When you’re being vectored on the downwind over cold and unwelcoming waters, why can’t the controller turn you in closer to the final approach fix?  When is it legal to give you a shortcut to keep you closer to the shore?  On this week’s episode, we discuss the legality of close in vectors, the use of a visual or contract approach, and more of your aviation questions and feedback.  You don’t want to miss this episode!


Timely Feedback:

1. PATRON Sierra Bravo flew 19 hours to Sun ‘n Fun in a gyroplane!

2. PATRON Mike Charlie Mike shares some Lobster Bravo general aviation stats.

3. SGAC PATRON Romeo Bravo shares a story about a busy airport with a closed runway.



1. PATRON Romeo Victor has made a family activity out of flight training.

2. PATRON Whiskey Tango Foxtrot shares some thoughts about Y fixes and approach plates.

3. PATRON Charlie Kilo Alpha has a question about automation and radar contracts.


Mentioned on the show:  AG and RH’s article is featured in the April 2023 edition of COPA Pilot magazine!

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