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Opposing Bases: Air Traffic Talk

Welcome to Opposing Bases: Air Traffic Talk.  Our aviation podcast is delivered by two experienced pilots that work as air traffic controllers.  We fly in the NAS and we interact with the community through our podcast.  Our show is driven by your feedback and questions.  Enjoy the show and thanks for listening!

Feb 27, 2023

Episode 269 Show Notes


Topic of the show: When you are a newly certified pilot, air traffic controllers can be intimidating and the system can make new private pilots apprehensive about using the services available to them.  In this week’s episode, we dive deep into a pilot’s first real interaction with ATC after getting a rating; what went wrong and how can they improve or better understand what’s happening in the background to make their next experience better?  We give our opinions on the interaction and explain all the details that may have led to the exchange.  This episode is packed with aviation gold and you don’t want to miss it!


Timely Feedback:

1.  Patron AC shares more insight into the complex informal, formal departure procedure under Sourdough Bravo.

2. PayPal contributor EF shares some background on the procedure we spoke about last week.



1. Patron JDG flies a triple seven and loves the show.  Thanks!

2. Patron JC shared some real life stories of using our advice in the NAS!

3. Patron JD got slam dunked.  Why? 

4. Patron MIK was magically made into a VFR departure without knowing it!

5. Patron MR shares some funny Air Force One stories from way back in the day, thank you!

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